Posts by Village Idiot

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A video denies evolution

by opusdei1972 in

i found the following video not unbiased and with an agenda behind it.

however, i am mainly interested in the argument presented against "the law of superposition".

this law or principle is is a foundational principle of sedimentary stratigraphy which states that: .

A video denies evolution

by opusdei1972 in

i found the following video not unbiased and with an agenda behind it.

however, i am mainly interested in the argument presented against "the law of superposition".

this law or principle is is a foundational principle of sedimentary stratigraphy which states that: .

The book Science and Earth History: The Evolution/Creation Controversy addresses that point. It is a large 500 page encyclopedia of Creationist arguments and their rebuttals and I highly recommend it in spite of its price tag.

The argument on the issue of geologic layers being 'out of sequence' is answered there along with illustrations. Basically it has to do with tectonic forces lifting up a segment of the terrain then pushing it sideways on top of the other layers. Further erosion will then produce a cross section where old layers are on top of new layers. It's much easier to understand with the illustrations.

As for the fossilized trees that are vertical (also covered in the book with very telling illustrations) they are basically buried by mud flows from localized heavy flooding. In some areas you find fossilized trees in multiple layers one on top of the other indicating that there was a tendency in that region for massive flooding or volcanic eruptions every so often. These multiple floodings would not correlate with a single flooding event per Genesis.

Again, I highly recommend the book for its comprehensive, detailed and understandable arguments and proofs.

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Elders in Spain Steal Millions from Congregation

by cappytan in

these men are appointed by holy spirit,.

here is the source: http://www.economiadigital.es/es/notices/2015/01/la-fiscalia-imputa-una-estafa-de-mas-de-170-millones-de-euros-a-una-congregacion-de-testigos-de-jeho-65161.php.

basically, if you don't know spanish, it boils down to this: (my personal editorial of what i've read).

Village Idiot

Maybe the sum was a typo? Off by two zeros?

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Elders in Spain Steal Millions from Congregation

by cappytan in

these men are appointed by holy spirit,.

here is the source: http://www.economiadigital.es/es/notices/2015/01/la-fiscalia-imputa-una-estafa-de-mas-de-170-millones-de-euros-a-una-congregacion-de-testigos-de-jeho-65161.php.

basically, if you don't know spanish, it boils down to this: (my personal editorial of what i've read).

Village Idiot

Can someone do the math? How many Witnesses in Spain (100,000?) divided into $170 million? Even with a few rich ones that would come out to a few thousand dollars per person.

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The "martydom" of witnesses!

by stuckinarut2 in

arrrghh...it amazes me!.

i have just seen more witnesses from "my" congregation manning the "literature carts".. it is over 40c / 100f temp, with very high humidity as well... and there they are...in the heat...like martyrs....earning "god points".. they are being ignored by the very few passers by....all of whom are trying to get out of the heat.. what is the point!?!

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Village Idiot

cappytan: "Must be Down Under this time of night."

You must be right, Australia is in its summer season. I just googled it and it seems that those cart pushers better have suntan lotion plus enough water to fill up a toilet bowl.

I remember, at one of the district conventions that was held at a sport stadium, seeing the Witnesses with umbrellas opened up. Right in front of me was this girl who was next to her mother both with umbrellas. However the little girl had a small child sized umbrella that was completely transparent.

Typical Witness logic.

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The "martydom" of witnesses!

by stuckinarut2 in

arrrghh...it amazes me!.

i have just seen more witnesses from "my" congregation manning the "literature carts".. it is over 40c / 100f temp, with very high humidity as well... and there they are...in the heat...like martyrs....earning "god points".. they are being ignored by the very few passers by....all of whom are trying to get out of the heat.. what is the point!?!

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Village Idiot

Where is this at?

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Notice anything different?

by enigma1863 in

i was flipping through an old publication and noticed the similarities between these two pictures, minus the beard.

Village Idiot

Has anyone ever wondered why Watchtower Jesus always sports a Western style beard? Also, the money bag on the table looks like a scrotum.

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I'm studying with Jehovah's Witnesses!!

by Kulotti79 in

jw
friends

hello all... i currently studying the bible teach book and i'm just curious what information does the study conductor record about the student and is it passed on??

and they keep on saying "the truth" which is starting to get on my nerves.

lol.

Village Idiot

Kulotti79: "And they keep on saying "the truth" which is starting to get on my nerves."

It was that phrase that I focused on in the last few months prior to my Disfellowshipping for apostacy. I basically said that they should not be calling themselves the "The Truth" even if they have the truth because it sounds arrogant. That did not settle well with the elders.

As for your being a 'study' with the Witnesses many on this forum would suggest that you steer clear of it and cancel all meeting attendance.

You're new here so I suggest doing some research on the 1001 threads that this site has. For example, look up the topic of sexual abuse and how the Watchtower acts like the Catholic Church in covering it up. The Watchtower simply is not interested in the well being of its members.

Also, I would strongly suggest that you get a hold of the classic book Crisis of Conscience by Raymond Franz. He was a former member of the governing body who wrote about his experience in the Watchtower ruling circle. Briefly stated the Watchtower organization is a dictatorship.

Although that book is out of print there are still a couple of used copies at Amazon for about less than $10.

Whatever you do don't commit yourself any further to them.

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Interview With an Apostate by Village Idiot

by Village Idiot in

tell us a little about yourself and your family.

got myself in at age 13. one day i saw a leaflet on my door about babylon the great condemned by god and thats all it took.

i mailed a letter to the congregation listed on the flyer requesting a book study.

Village Idiot

Thanks for the welcome smiddy. Looking back at our lives I wonder if we would have gone through the same hell if there was an Internet available back then.

Thank you too for your welcome Sail Away. I'm sorry to hear about your son. Was his attempted suicide related to any Watchtower issues? Is your daughter completely out of The Lie?

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Thinking about thinking and upbringing

by ballistic in

jw
friends

i was thinking about being "brought up in the truth" as opposed to joining.. as a child's brain develops, it builds connections based on what it is taught.

these connections are inseparable from the person in that our thoughts and memories actually become part of our personality (who we are).. a very simple example, might be being taught *not to do something* because it "displeases jehovah".

the understanding of right and wrong is then set in the child's mind and built upon.. there are several points of thought i have about this fact.

Village Idiot

I believe that our characters are part genetically rooted and part upbringing/culture. I remember being very moralistic as a child before becoming a JW at age 13. I remained moralistic through my 8 years of being a JW and after my sudden exit I was still moralistic. Fortunately it's not the same 'morality' as theirs.